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When did the society decide blood transfusions were a bad idea?

by new boy in

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more book research..

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Perhaps controversial as to its authentication; nevertheless, worth considering:

"When faced with mounting opposition, Fred Franz eased the Society's position on blood regarding the following [bold added]: (1) Serum injections such as diphtheria toxin antitoxin and gamma globulin blood fractions were permitted. (2) There was no need to drain blood from fish (except when "a person sees an accumulation of blood"), only land animals. (3) While a Witness could not personally use fertilizer using blood, he could use it when employed by a non-witness. This and similar situations were made matters of conscience. (4) Over the years, the Watch Tower Society had taken the position of prohibiting the use of blood fractions in the treatment of hemophiliacs. But long before officially leaving this stringent position, if one were to call the headquarters they would be told that such treatment was permissible. Years later, in the June 15, 1978 WATCHTOWER, the "oracle" decided the pressure was getting too severe, so he withdrew his position altogether, and permitted both hemophiliac preparations Factor VIII and IX. How many hemophiliacs died in the interim, further sacrifices on the altar of man-made Watch Tower dogma?"

THE FOUR PRESIDENTS, E. C. Gruss, Ed. p. 77.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/126825/persecution-wanes-banning-blood-garners-publicity

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"Each a glimpse and gone for ever"

by compound complex in

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here is a cart run away in the road.

lumping along with a man and load.

and here is a mill and there is a river:.

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Here is a cart run away in the road

Lumping along with a man and load

And here is a mill and there is a river:

Each a glimpse and gone for ever.

"From a Railway Carriage," by Robert Louis Stevenson

I read the above (my first acquaintance with the very words that perfectly voice my long-held but otherwise unspoken inner sentiments) about an hour ago, in the magazine, PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER, printed in U.S.A.

It's not uncommon to hold onto a delightful but fleeting image for as long as possible, savoring it, rolling it around in our mind as its fading beauty seeps downward into our heart of hearts, awaiting some future trigger to pull it back up into our consciousness.

Ah, beautiful, transitory images that fill our minds and hearts and -- upon that triggered retrieval process -- bring our wistful souls a measure of comfort during these drear days of autumnal bleakness . . .

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"The sole purpose" of the Society ...

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for the viewing of those who missed this quotation where elsewhere posted:.

the sole purpose of our existence as a society is to announce.

the kingdom established in 1914 and to sound the warning of.

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Half banana's new thread regarding The Society's primary teaching brought this old subject to mind.

Is this, perhaps, a case of an angel from heaven (or elsewhere) declaring a good news other than that proffered in the New Testament?

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Have you ever thought what the primary teaching of Jehovah’s Witnesses is?

by Half banana in

it is not “preach the good news” nor is it “believe in jesus and get saved” neither is it “believe in the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses and get saved” although in practice they do teach this.

no, everything they claim depends on a belief in another doctrine which logic decrees cannot be found in the bible.

the leadership of jehovah’s witnesses put absolute faith in a protestant doctrine which is given a latin name, sola scriptura, meaning “by scripture alone”.. good evidence of the governing body believing in the primacy of this doctrine was when being questioned by the australian royal commission, they resorted to the ‘authority’ of scripture to defend their stance on having “two witnesses” when they are investigating child abuse cases.throughout the hearing they paraded their naive trust in the bible as the highest possible authority proudly ignoring the fact that most people regard it as having been superseded by modern scientific evaluations of what is true.. .

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"The sole purpose of our existence as a Society is to announce
the Kingdom established in 1914 and to sound the warning of
the fall of Babylon the Great [in 1918]. We have a SPECIAL
message to deliver."

--- Fred Franz's words to Bethel family, November 17, 1979.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/143902/sole-purpose-society

Edited to add: If you are unable to check out the above link, these words of Fred Franz were recorded by Ray Franz, in his book, Crisis of Conscience.

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The watchtower does not have the resources

by pepperheart in

if you have a look at the december broadcast on jw tv they tell you that they wont be showing you a normal format for december but the 143rd event of gilead because the watchtower does not have the resources other wise to translate it many different lanuages.. with all the cuts the watchtower have made and are going to make you would have thought that they would have lots of resources.

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SBF: What you wrote earlier about changes that would allow you to return appealed to me on a level of personal sentiment and nostalgia for things past.

Even some non-believers have stated that they are drawn to the pageantry and mystery certain church services offer. Why, even former Bethelite Tom Cabeen became Catholic. I do miss the camaraderie and spiritual atmosphere that was the center of my life for decades. As I wrote on your "Methodist" thread, it all began with my going to The First Methodist Episcopal Church as a child.

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Crazy statements from JWTalk

by Jehovah lol in

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i'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.

here is a sampling:.

"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".

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Just as with metal, there is a limit to the number of times it can be twisted before it snaps. -- westiebillie11

EXCELLENT!

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Creeeeepy Sanderson

by oppostate in

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creepy sanderson.

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The buttons are truly out of alignment and, certainly, shockingly out of color (colour) context with the gray (colour and grey, for SBF and steve2) suit. I would suggest replacement buttons from the following list of color (colour) options: Pearl Gray (grey); Cadet Gray (grey); Payne's Gray (grey); or Taupe Gray (grey).

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Crazy statements from JWTalk

by Jehovah lol in

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i'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.

here is a sampling:.

"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".

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To carry this further . . .

It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.

NO! I dispute this vague, non-committal and mealy-mouthed supposition -- It seems -- that those 24 elders are perhaps, possibly, maybe directing matters on behalf of The Lord's chosen ones. The evidence shows beyond all doubt that the consecrated are directed by Heaven in their carrying out The Great Architect's Divine Plan of the Ages.

It does not seem to be so -- it is so!

SBF: This is dead serious.

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Crazy statements from JWTalk

by Jehovah lol in

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i'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.

here is a sampling:.

"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".

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I don't need Jerry to send me a copy of the Revelation book because I have Mom's copy, seriously underlined, with her own commentary (valuable to me since she was of the anointed and now is directing matters on earth from heaven):

11 What, then, can we deduce from the fact that one of the 24 elders identifies the great crowd to John? It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. Why is that important?

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/171939/governing-body-channels

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Punctuation within and without quotation marks

by compound complex in

http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp .

would someone please make this link clickable?.

cc.

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In terms of self-assessment, Smith made various pronouncements on what he considered his best work. These included the six stories in [The] Double Shadow (i.e., "The Voyage of King Euvoran," "The Maze of the Enchanter, " "The Double Shadow," "A Night in Malnéant," "The Devotee of Evil" and "The Willow Landscape") and the individual stories "The Eternal World" and "The City of the Singing Flame." He named "The Uncharted Isle" as the best "or at least favorite" of his "straight science fiction" stories. Toward the end of his life, Smith considered his "masterpiece" to be the blank verse play, "The Dead Will Cuckold You" (1951, 1956) set in Zothique, one of his last completed works. Of his Zothique story cycle taken as a whole, Smith said it was "in no wise inferior to Dunsany and Cabell." Regarding his poetry -- which he took the most seriously of all his creative work -- Smith felt (writing in 1936) that he had produced his best work in the years 1913-23.

http://alangullette.com/lit/smith/sorcerer.htm

Note: Book titles are italicized -- The Double Shadow -- whereas, individual stories or poems -- "The City of the Singing Flame" -- are placed within quotation marks.